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The Whole North Into Gaul
Luka Borščak wrote:
Quote:Could you please elaborate on the meaning of Sangiban's name? Which Osset words would be roots of it? Do you have any other Sarmatian names you know meaning of?
Information about Alanic names that I wrote above come from the book “Sources on the Alans-A Critical Compilation” by Agustí Alemany. He has references to the possible meanings of a lot of prominent Alans from ancient times up to the times when Alans were serving in the armies of the Yuan Chinese. He tries to put in various etymologies for names if possible (Avestan, Ossetic, Georgian, Armenian, Old Iranian, Middle Persian, Chinese, Slav etc) but he does stress that they are only possible meanings.

Other possible meanings for various prominent Alans
Goar/Gochar “obtaining cattle”, Eochar who could possibly have been the same man as Goar, has an etymology of “eater of millet” (Ossetian “jœw-xwar”). Millet being a staple cereal grain in Sarmatian and Alan diets due to the wild grasses growing on the banks of the major river systems and wetlands which they occupied seasonally.

Aspar, Rasparangus, Respendial could have Old Iranian or Ossetian (rafsœrœg) “horseman” or “who advances or attacks or he who takes the offensive”. In Respendial’s case he took the offensive and defeated the Franks when they had his allies, the Hasdingi Vandals under their king Godigisel on the ropes. Maybe the Sarmatians/Alans were big on titles rather than names?

Sambida has an unknown etymology but Alemany suggests maybe a Caucasus origin as name is similar to Armenian Smbat, Šambit or Georgian Sumbat.

Saphrax, although a Greuthingi chieftain supposedly had Sarmatian/Alanic origins and the name could possibly be a Latin transliteration of the word “saurag” literally “black back” to do with horses but if you look at Ossetian the word saurag could stem from “sœw-rag” or “early-riser”. Some think that the name Saphrax might have Hunnic origins as well.

The Nart stories have a lot of possible Sarmatian names as many had Sarmatian origins but over time the stories have blurred with a lot of Greek and Turkic influences and up to the early 20th century these tales were oral stories told from memory.

In regards to Sangiban he mentions a few possible meanings, not only Osset but Avestan. Below is a jpeg file of Sangiban/Sangibanus.


[attachment=12727]Sangibanus.jpg[/attachment]

Hope all this helps :-)
Regards
Michael Kerr


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