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I have a couple of Grozer bows too. The Roman one is not offered in the composite III though iirc. so I use a hungarian for my roman stuff, and a nice scythian for greek.
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Back to you both,
I have a Grozer Hungarian that I liked until the buffalo horn backing cracked. However, my favorite is his so-called asymmetrical "Hun," even though we know the eared or improved bow was developed by the Sargatskya around 300-200BC. This one has steppe cattle horn-- good stuff.
On FB RAT, I asked to join the new group. Although the wrong gender, I know a bit about steppe archery, a certified instructor of the traditional mode. ;-)
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His Asymmetric Hun is what the Romans used.
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Hi, Evan
I think you're correct. Bone plates from Roman bows found at Caerleon are in two differing lengths, indicting typical asymmetry. The more we study ancient bows, the more we realize the actual popularity of an asymmetrical design. They are great bows.  mile:
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You joined at a good time: there is another all women Syrian archer group in Italy, the Legio XIII based in Rimini. Seems popular.
Spain and maybe other countries have problems with functional bows and arrows. The Spanish group says the police will not let them have them unless they fill out a lot of paperwork and other liability issues.
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I've had no problems with mine so far.. Good point Evan, At the time, it was hard to find bow evidence anyone agreed on.
I took the hungarian as it was the best he was offering at the time. Nice small powerfull bow.
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Mine's a Grozer Hungarian as well. I have a Grozer Scythian too. I wouldn't mind having a go with an asymmetric bow, but I'll have to pay a few more bills off before I think about adding a third bow to my collection.
Getting back to the original topic, I agree with the idea that these groups should instead try their hand at being Scythian or Sarmatian archers if there is evidence for female archers from these cultures. It would be doing something different and would be educational for all concerned, introducing as it would do, a different ancient image realised in physical form for a modern audience.
I suspect though that the reason these groups of women have opted to be Syrian archers, might be that aside from enjoying archery, the other thing they may have in common with each other is that they are insufficiently aware of there being ancient archers from anywhere other than Syria.
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True, but I think they have chosen this impression to allow them to be part of the Roman re enactment group they are part of, and portray a military image, possibly.
The longer tunics cover a woman's shapely legs .
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"The longer tunics cover a woman's shapely legs ."
True, but it might also be said that they have more difficulty widening her delicate shoulders or changing the happy relationship between hips and waist. ;-)
Also, apart from the dubious evidence of Trajan's Column, evidence for those oft-reconstructed long tunics in Roman service is more than a bit thin on the ground. I think hen's teeth are a little more common in fact.
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Long Women's tunics have been found but I don't know of any from the Principate.
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Ah - but we are talking of military tunics, and the tunics you mention are surely not military, are they?
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Quote:Ah - but we are talking of military tunics, and the tunics you mention are surely not military, are they?
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I would be interested in seeing a Roman military Tunic from the time in question, actually any complete or near complete item of clothing that is not taken from artwork...
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I'm not aware of any tunic ever found in a military context, although male civilian tunics from the Late Roman period were quintessentially the same.
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Ivor,
Get yourself a copy of one of Graham Sumner's books on Roman Military Clothing. mile:
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Quote:The longer tunics cover a woman's shapely legs .
No need for longer tunics, just use leg wraps etc. I think our modern image of naked Roman (male) legs is a bit outdated anyway. For instance, too many groups in northern Europe still insist on turning out for shows in say February without any leg covers. And they claim that it's OK to do so 'because the Romans did not wear trousers'. Whoch may be corect, but they fail to see the point of leg covers. A miles patrolling Hadran's Wall in winter would not have done so bare-legged. Nor o we ned 'longer tunics' to camoflage women's legs. 
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