Salve,<br>
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Martin, thanks again for putting together the schedule of the past days. It was great.<br>
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The thought of it being used to secure a carrying strap or harness (either for the shield or a set of <i> phalerae</i>) also occurred to me. It seems at an awkward position to be used for keeping the sword baldric in place.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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With your last sentence ("awkward position for keeping a sword baldric in place") you're absolutely right, Sander, but I still can't quite imagine it being for a shield string because it's still positioned right under the arms of the soldier which I imagine very uncomfortable, especiallly with a big shield hanging from it! Besides, I don't think it would have been strong enough for the weight of, let's say, a <i> scutum</i>.<br>
And we should remember: the hooks were at both sides, one would have been enough if it was intended for a shield (string). I like the idea with the <i> phalerae</i> better, but on the other hand we should not forget that the hooks might have been attached secondarily, maybe at a time when the <i> segmentata</i> was not in use as a cuirass anymore.<br>
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For the poor people who had not the chance to see the original: we are talking about one quite strong hook (ca 3 cms long) at each SIDE of the <i> segmentata</i>, punched through from the inside of the second girdle plate (from the upper end) and opening upwards.<br>
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##Could someone please transfer this new discussion to the military history section?? (It's NOT reenactment or reconstruction to me, as you might understand... ##<br>
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Think I will not change my user name (I'm a <i> signifer</i> now! Think about how much money I would lose! Has anyone ever seen a <i> signifer</i> in the roman fleet? Oh, another topic...); only will change my signature into:<br>
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Eeehh: yes! There is one in CIL X, 1080 and in XI, 6107. Can't find them online (yet). And anyway, I think Jenny should allow for a second careerpath including trierarch, navarch and Praefectus Classis.<br>
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BTW, today I got the Konen book on the Classis Germanica. Nearly as thick as Reddé's one on the whole fleet. Bloody h*ll! <p>Greets<BR>
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Jasper</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub45.ezboard.com/ujasperoorthuys.showPublicProfile?language=EN>Jasper Oorthuys</A> at: 2/19/02 5:09:36 pm<br></i>
When you've finished that, your German will be even better! E EM<br>
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Thanks for the CIL ref., faster than I could think about it!<br>
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Leider gibt's noch immer ein Unterschied zwischen lesen und sprechen können! <p>Greets<BR>
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...aber offenbar keinen mehr zwischen lesen und schreiben können!<br>
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Wörterbücher sind wunderbar! <p>Greets<BR>
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No, the Mainz trip thread will stay in Off Topic, BUT I have amended the History forum to include archaeology and a convenient new Stillfried thread is just waiting for the continuation of the debate.<br>
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Jenny
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Jenny, you've done me a great favour! Finally, archaeology receives the attention it deserves at RAT. Why didn't I just think of that during the weekend?<br>
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No worries, Martin, it seemed a very natural thing to do. Enjoy! We should now begin our London planning. Are you going to go with Jasper, Sander, and I?<br>
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Jenny, I think this is just the right moment to open a new thread for London in this section. I'm not sure whether I can come (quite pessimistic, to be honest), but would love to.<br>
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Well, I certainly hope so! We will have some fun times in those cozy London pubs after the day's serious conference sessions.<br>
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I don't know, though, if we can find anything quite like this for you to model!<br>
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Hey!<br>
I'm here too!<br>
A big big thank you to all who participated in these great days!<br>
I had great fun, I took 200 pictures (:-)), and now I'm back to my office full of work :-(<br>
I hope to soon to put on line most of the pictures I have taken.<br>
Hear you soon!<br>
Ciao<br>
Luca<br>
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Oh no, Jenny! You did it! E EM<br>
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Hi Dan,<br>
Did you get the picture? Found an e-mail adress somewhere on the net, dunno if you still use it. <p>Greets<BR>
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